Blue, Red, Violet, Yellow, and White Monks are described in simple, short text blocks, with stats and abilities. Then the rat bastards say, and I quote, "Green Monks and Orange Monks were covered in Back for Seconds and are not repeated here".

Ok, two things...

(1) Does anyone have BFS, and if so, would you be willing to send me the info on these two monk types?

(2) An open comment to any game book publishers of any game anywhere: CONSUMERS FRIGGIN' HATE WHEN YOU DO CRAP LIKE THAT. I don't care if you previously had it chiseled on the face of Mt Rushmore; if yer gonna give stats for 90% of something, take the five inches of column space and REPRINT the freakin' remaining 10% of the info. Thank you.

Kiero

Hey, Will! I'm lobbing this your way as something to look into, as long as we were thinking of beefing BOTV up with some new material.

On a wider point, will any of the other non-reprinted/non-obsolete stuff from Back for Seconds be reprinted somewhere, or else appear as an errata PDF? I've never seen Back for Seconds myself, so I wouldn't know what I'm missing.

Kiero

We need to do books in multiples of 16 pages (print signatures), and we were planning to add some new material to Blood of the Valiant anyhow.

> On a wider point, will any of the other
> non-reprinted/non-obsolete stuff from Back for Seconds be
> reprinted somewhere, or else appear as an errata PDF? I've
> never seen Back for Seconds myself, so I wouldn't know what
> I'm missing.

It's not likely. In fact, it's not even clear to me that we can do these monks. We don't own the rights to the Daedalus books (and it's often not clear who does). In the case of Thorns of the Lotus, we made an arrangement with the original author (Daedalus never paid him to own the material, as i recall). I'm not completely sure about the situation with Back for Seconds, but we can look into it, since we did get those other archetypes out of it. (It may be that the archetypes we did use were Robin's writing, and but the monks weren't, in which case it may not be possible.)

On the other hand, we might wind up having a brand-new write up, rather than a reprint, if this is material that people think needs to be covered in the Atlas editions somewhere.

I've got both Blood of the Valiant and Back for Seconds, but I'd love to see every colored monk back in print.

Green Monks get lots of turtle schitcks plus one called Immobility of the Turtle, Chi 2, Shots 1. On a successful Martial Arts check the Monk channels Chi into the surface he stands on. He cannot be moved until the end of the sequence, or until he is killed.

Green Monk mooks go down on attacks of outcome 6 or more.

Orange Monks get a Schtick called Orange Principle. When you use a Fu schtick, you gain a +1 AV bonus to Martial Arts check the next time you use a different Fu schtick in the same sequence. You also gain a +1 AV bonus when you attack 3 or more opponents in the same action.

Special sticks are for named monks.

I don't remember where I found this, but here you go.