D20 System Games Dynasties & Demagogues REVIEWS!
From: Chris Aylott Posted on: 5/7/2003 1:23 pm
To: ALL
Message: 207.1
Here comes the first one, from K. David Ladage.

http://www.enworld.org/reviews/index.php?sub=yes&where=active&reviewer=KDLadage&product=DaD

I'm thrilled he liked the book, and honored that he went over in such detail! He's also started a discussion thread here:

http://enworld.cyberstreet.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=880934#post880934

cheers,

Chris Aylott


Edited 5/7/2003 1:42:30 PM ET by Space-Crime Continuum (SPACECRIME2)
From: CCAMFIELD Posted on: 5/8/2003 9:02 am
To: Chris Aylott
Message: 207.2
in reply to: 207.1
Damn, I want to read this stuff, but I don't want it to affect my own review of the book. :) Maybe once I've got a first draft done... then I can see if I agree with what he says or if there are counterpoints to make.
From: Chris Aylott Posted on: 5/8/2003 11:19 am
To: CCAMFIELD
Message: 207.3
in reply to: 207.2
Yeah, you're probably better off not reading other reviews yet. I know all too well how easy it is to react to someone else's reaction to a text instead of reacting to the text itself.

cheers,

Chris Aylott
http://www.spacecrime.com/

From: CCAMFIELD Posted on: 5/16/2003 1:13 pm
To: Chris Aylott
Message: 207.4
in reply to: 207.3
ENWorld is back up, and I've just posted my review there (after what seemed like far too many edit jobs, as I figured out how the text system works there.)

http://www.enworld.org/reviews/index.php?sub=yes&where=active&reviewer=ccamfield&product=DaD

From: Chris Aylott Posted on: 5/16/2003 1:56 pm
To: CCAMFIELD
Message: 207.5
in reply to: 207.4
Just read it, and I think it's an excellent review-- lots of good points on both the strengths and weaknesses of the book.

My one quibble (and it's not even really a quibble, more of a "what I was thinking" explanation) -- is on the Team Player personality feat. You write:

"I'm a little concerned that a Team Player can gain a point by performing an "aid another" action; the opportunities for this are much greater than some of the other feats."

That's quite intentional. One of the things I wanted the book to accomodate is the casual player who finds himself being dragged into a more complex political game. (If you remember, I talk about Robin's Laws and tuning games to a variety of players -- it's pretty important in an unconventional style of game like this one.) The Team Player archetype is specifically there for casual or shy players; it gives them something easy and helpful to do that doesn't require them to initiate schemes or otherwise put themselves in the spotlight.

The other thing to remember is that each PC can only earn 1 action point per session, and that the most useful benefit (experience) is shared with the rest of the group. That makes most of the feats self-balancing, because no matter how many opportunities you have to do something you can only benefit from it once. In addition, the player group benefits most from a game mechanics standpoint if *every* PC has their moment in the spotlight. Designing personality feats with different difficulties of achievement gives retiring players a chance to contribute while encouraging the group to devote more attention to making sure the more thematic characters get their moments in the spotlight.

Anyway, I think it's a great review. Thank you so much for giving this your time and thoughts!

best wishes,

Chris Aylott
Writer and Retailer
http://www.spacecrime.com/



Edited 5/16/2003 1:57:46 PM ET by Space-Crime Continuum (SPACECRIME2)
From: CCAMFIELD Posted on: 5/16/2003 3:51 pm
To: Chris Aylott
Message: 207.6
in reply to: 207.5
Hi Chris,

Well, that's a great big "oops!" on my part about the Team Player feat. Somehow I missed the point that characters can only earn one point per session.

Thanks for your comments on my review. The ones I've written for rpg.net - well, I don't know if I worked quite as hard on them, and consequently I don't think they were quite as good. Doing a traditional revision with a printout and a red-pen turned out to be very helpful.

I would like to hope that if the book does well, Atlas might consider doing some sort of follow-up. Although, I was thinking about trying to submit an article to D20 Weekly describing some of the political systems missed in the book. :)

From: Chris Aylott Posted on: 5/16/2003 4:22 pm
To: CCAMFIELD
Message: 207.7
in reply to: 207.6
> I would like to hope that if the book does well, Atlas might consider
> doing some sort of follow-up.

Well, they kinda sorta are. Keith Baker's CRIME & PUNISHMENT is coming out in July -- it will have lots of juicy stuff in it, and the one after that (I don't think John's publicly announced it yet) sounds equally spiffy to me. Neither book is about politics, but they should both have Stuff You Can Use with Politics. I'm also starting work on a book that is most emphatically *not* DYN & DEM II, but will fit into it in interesting ways.

> Although, I was thinking about trying to submit an article
> to D20 Weekly describing some of the political systems missed
> in the book. :)

Sounds very cool to me -- go for it!

cheers,

Chris

From: Chris Aylott Posted on: 5/19/2003 11:24 am
To: Chris Aylott
Message: 207.8
in reply to: 207.7
New review today from Eric Lofgren! You can find it at:

http://www.rpg.net/reviews/archive/9/9340.phtml

cheers,

Chris

From: CCAMFIELD Posted on: 5/20/2003 12:56 am
To: Chris Aylott
Message: 207.9
in reply to: 207.7
I guess I'm thinking it would be cool to have a book about conspiracies, revolts and revolutions. :)

Anyhow, I just found out that rpg.net has about a 1-week delay between review submission and posting, something I was totally unaware of. So, my review should make it to rpg.net this Friday...

From: Chris Aylott Posted on: 5/21/2003 11:15 am
To: Chris Aylott
Message: 207.10
in reply to: 207.1
There's a new Dynasties review today at:

http://www.gamingguardians.com/reviews/dynasty.html

I love the first line: "Greetings! El Hombre Bittero back to tell you why you MUST buy this book.", and the rest of the review is very positive!

cheers,

Chris Aylott
The Space-Crime Continuum
Northampton, MA

From: John Nephew Posted on: 6/11/2003 10:42 am
To: Chris Aylott
Message: 207.11
in reply to: 207.10
Merwin's review is up on Ogre Cave:

http://www.ogrecave.com/reviews/dyn_n_dem.shtml