Feng Shui Blood of the Valiant extra material PDF?
From: CCAMFIELD Posted on: 9/21/2003 10:14 am
To: ALL
Message: 289.1
I was wondering, is there any chance that Atlas would consider releasing Keith Baker's extra chapter for Blood of the Valiant as a standalone PDF product? I'd be willing to pay something for the extra material, but having acquired a used copy in good condition only last year, I don't think I'll be buying a whole new book.

I figure this is extremely, extremely unlikely to happen, but I figured I'd toss the idea out anyway. :)

From: John Nephew Posted on: 9/24/2003 11:10 pm
To: CCAMFIELD
Message: 289.2
in reply to: 289.1
No, no plan to do it as a PDF. Ultimately, whenever the book sells out, it's likely to be available in its entirety in PDF format. Upon release, though, we'll be shamelessly looking for every possible sale to help pay for the costs of production. ;-)
From: KungFuStrong Posted on: 10/2/2003 8:07 am
To: John Nephew
Message: 289.3
in reply to: 289.2
Can you please give more detailed information about the new stuff?

By the way, I do not like the cover very much. Why is there a train?

With best regards,

Stefan

From: CCAMFIELD Posted on: 10/2/2003 10:56 am
To: KungFuStrong
Message: 289.4
in reply to: 289.3
I don't really like the new cover that much, but there's no reason not to have a train. They were certainly around in the 1850s. :)
From: Hindmarch Posted on: 10/2/2003 2:53 pm
To: CCAMFIELD
Message: 289.5
in reply to: 289.4
Hi there,

Keith Baker's new material covers some possible ways to handle critical shifts caused by the Guiding Hand's victory in several junctures. When he suggested this to me, I couldn't believe we hadn't tackled the critical shift issue in the other faction books. I mean, a critical shift in their favor is basically what every faction wants! Anyway, it's there now, and is a really entertaining selection of material (what with the Confucian States of America and all that).

I like the cover quite a bit. Besides tapping into an energetic art style which the Feng Shui covers of old were somewhat lacking, Kagan's painting makes clever use of the colored monks motif in the Guiding Hand. Besides that, the train gives the cover an unmistakeable 1850s quality. I can't tell you all what you should or shouldn't like, but I feel very comfortable predicting that this cover will be hard to miss on the shelf at your store.

word,
Will
Feng Shui
Atlas

From: Bob the Dancing Monkey Posted on: 10/6/2003 1:56 pm
To: Hindmarch
Message: 289.6
in reply to: 289.5
Smallest of questions, Will. Will the buyer, in fact, be able to learn the stats for all six of the colored Monks? So that they may kick ass like Skittles?
From: Hindmarch Posted on: 10/6/2003 3:30 pm
To: Bob the Dancing Monkey
Message: 289.7
in reply to: 289.6
Hi Bob,

Alas, no. Or, more accurately, not all six. Or, really, not all seven. The rules for Orange and Green monks that appeared in "Back for Seconds" aren't available for us to play with. "Blood of the Valiant," though, does contain stats for Red, Blue, Violet, Yellow, and White monks. So you'll get five flavors of shaolin action but not, I'm sorry to say, orange or lime.

word,
Will Hindmarch
Feng Shui
Atlas Games

From: DarrinBright Posted on: 10/9/2003 11:04 am
To: Hindmarch
Message: 289.8
in reply to: 289.7
Well, that's disappointing to hear. I thought that since the extra monks were written by Hal Mangold (he's a lot easier to find than Rich Warren), it'd be easy to get the rights for it.

Any possibility of seeing these monks as a downloadable PDF?

From: CCAMFIELD Posted on: 10/9/2003 3:51 pm
To: DarrinBright
Message: 289.9
in reply to: 289.8
I would presume that that material belongs to Daedalus, not the writer.
From: John Nephew Posted on: 10/9/2003 6:22 pm
To: DarrinBright
Message: 289.10
in reply to: 289.8
Indeed, Hal is much easier to find. I saw him in person in Seattle just a few weeks ago, and sank some of his ships while playtesting a card game that John Tynes had brought. But, alas, the issue is Daedalus, the publisher and copyright owner (and an entity in legal limbo). Rich Warren was hard to find...but he was the copyright owner, since Thorns was produced late in the Daedalus era and the publisher never actually paid him for his writing. (Thus, the argument goes, the contract to buy all rights to his writing was not completed, and the rights were never actually purchased by Daedalus.)

Lacking the rights, we have no more right to offer a free PDF download than we do a paper reprint.

From: Bob the Dancing Monkey Posted on: 10/10/2003 9:35 am
To: John Nephew
Message: 289.11
in reply to: 289.10

You know, the sad part is that while 'Back for Seconds' is a great GMC resource and the only place to find stats for Furious George and Orangotank (what, y'all thought that was an oversight?), Homo Omega, Desdemona Death-Angel, Adrienne Hart, and the chase-card-equivalent of the taste-the-rainbow monks, there was an equally kickass scenario book called 'Marked for Death', which had - among others - the elements of a full-blown HK hard-boiled action film, complete with a chanteuse in peril, forbidden love, and, of course, people to shoot through windows.

I forget if doves make an appearance.


Edited 10/10/2003 9:37:53 AM ET by Bob the Dancing Monkey (BOBMONKEY)
From: Queex Posted on: 10/20/2003 6:06 am
To: Bob the Dancing Monkey
Message: 289.12
in reply to: 289.11
I thought Desdemona featured in SotNF? Or is that a different interpretation of her?
From: Bob the Dancing Monkey Posted on: 10/20/2003 8:49 am
To: Queex
Message: 289.13
in reply to: 289.12
If memory serves, the version in Seeds is a little less...ummm..nasty. I'll have to look when I get home.