Ars Magica Typography problem with AM5?
From: elfabio Posted on: 12/31/2004 6:50 am
To: ALL
Message: 475.1

I am the only lucky one or it's a more spread problem?

I just got my 5th edition book and on some pages (say 1/4 of the total) the titles of paragraph (and the name of spells) are printed 2 times with a slight offset

they look as if a ghost of the script is lingering to them, it's very boring cause in a very good book it just jump to the eyes and in some pages make it really hard-reading

anyone with the same problem?

From: StevePettit Posted on: 12/31/2004 9:41 am
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Message: 475.2
in reply to: 475.1

(Pulls out Ars5 book, and flips through a few pages...)

Yeah, there appears to be registration errors (mis-aligned, multi-color printing for the layman) in my copy of the book. Appears numerous times, and it does make the book a bit harder to look at on those pages. It's not a very large error, perhaps less than .5mm, but that slight shift makes it look out of focus, so your eyes try to refocus...

Steve

From: spuwdsda2 Posted on: 12/31/2004 11:31 am
To: StevePettit
Message: 475.3
in reply to: 475.2


Apparently it is a problem the printing technology used (web-press iirc). It will allow re-prints (smaller runs) to be done more economically.

I guess the re-prints will be amended to avoid such registation issues. I think it is a completely electronic process, so this should be a simple matter.

Regards

- David W

From: elfabio Posted on: 12/31/2004 1:19 pm
To: StevePettit
Message: 475.4
in reply to: 475.2

maybe since I am discromathic I have a slightly greater problem at refocusing

but the book is very very good, so I am quite happy even with this glitch :)

thank you for this 5th ed atlas :)

looking forward to future releases :)

From: John Nephew Posted on: 1/22/2005 9:58 am
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Message: 475.5
in reply to: 475.4

Hey, folks. Sorry I'm so behind in reading forum posts.

Yes, it's a registration issue -- the ink from the two plates not hitting the paper right. I gather it's sort of inevitable with the web presses (which use enormous rolls of paper -- something like six or eight feet wide, and hundreds of feet long, that run through the two plates one after the other at very high speed). The variations can't really be avoided, but we made a design error in using an ink combination for the smallest subheader (the one used on spell titles), where even slight offsets between the two inks makes it look blurry.

Whenever we reprint we'll probably have the same underlying registration issue (unless we switch to considerably more expensive sheet-fed press work), but we'll be able to change those subheaders to black-only and get rid of the worst effects. (I don't think it's such a big problem on the bigger headers or on any of the illustrations).

-John Nephew
President, Atlas Games